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    By Elron Elray

    Between Lives Implants

    23 July 1963
    By L. Ron Hubbard®

    Now we notice that Mars doesn't have any atmosphere either and won't
    support life. In spite of the fact
    that it turns green and red and purple with the seasons, it
    doesn't support life. We understand -- there's lots
    of things we understand about this system -- heh-heh! Isn't it?
    But this is a carefully maintained station.
    And a space-opera, meat-body type society maintains it very
    carefully. They have a hospital, there's space
    craft hanging around there, dispatcher stations, landing
    platforms, this type of thing. It's all highly civilized,
    but they carefully maintain this one. And it's very interesting,
    they maintain this one. They've maintained it
    for thousands of years without any change. Why, it's fascinating.
    Why are they maintaining this thing?
    Why? Why is it so important to them?
    Don't be deluded by the atmosphere they pump into you -- the
    emotion they pump into you during the
    implant, that it's all for the best in this best of all possible
    worlds, man. It might be that, "We've treated you
    like a gentleman," but the fact of the case is, I classify that as
    a dirty trick. Why is it so interesting whether
    or not somebody gets off this planet? Well frankly, your answer is
    practically as good as mine. I could make
    a few guesses on this, but that's about all.
    But the rest of this universe isn't run this way. It's a
    question of where are we? Why? Well, I know this:
    that onto this planet there's a great deal of dumping has gone on.
    Stuff from the nearby galaxy -- not this
    galaxy but from the next galaxy over and so forth, is going on
    here. I know they take political prisoners and
    guys who they don't want around, but it's less personal than you
    think. They just have excess population
    so they start to get rid of their excess population, you see?
    They've got a revolt, or you're on the wrong side
    of a war, or something like that, and they pick you up in droves
    and ice-cube you and throw you into a sea
    I know this planet has been subjected to that and several
    planets in this immediate end of this galaxy
    have been subjected to that -- that I know. But somebody must have
    taken a great deal of interest in this
    fact. And somebody must be awfully afraid. Somebody must be
    awfully afraid. You could almost say it isn't
    so many -- how many are here, but it might also be a question of
    who's here. Think of the cost -- now let's
    think of it in terms of just a society, you see -- think of the
    cost of maintaining a huge station or several
    stations, its maintenance, light, power, wages. Think of
    maintaining it on a basis of hard work, because it is.
    Look at the volume that station handles. How many people die on
    this planet in any given day? Well that's
    how many guys are started in on the beginning of that line in any
    day. That's a lot of people, man! That's
    something on the order of two and a half billion implants every
    half-century. That's quite a volume. Of
    course somebody may not say that's a great volume, but look at the
    length of the implant.
    Now, if it were a two-second implant, I would say well,
    yeah, anybody could handle that. But it -- I know
    that it's more than sixty-nine days. And I know the stuff is
    ferried back here. Why, I think that's all very
    interesting. That this is a -- this looks to me like a very
    expensive proposition. And remember this has been
    going on since before the days of Egypt. Way back. Without any
    change. What industry! What
    So we ask these various questions: Who's here, and who are
    we? See, we can ask a lot of questions out
    of this. I don't pretend to have the answers to these questions.
    There's no interpretation I'm giving it
    particularly beyond the interpretation -- same interpretation I'm
    telling you about the room you live in. I've
    seen the room. And you're just beginning to look at it.
    Now, the amount of duress necessary to produce a continuous
    degraded state can be measured thereby.
    Look at the hard work to keep people aberrated. Now, a few months
    ago I was telling you about if you were
    just left alone for a while, you'd snap out of it. Remember? If
    you were just left alone for a while, you'd snap
    out of it. The universe itself is therapeutic. But look at how
    hard they have to look at it. I know that in any
    given situation somebody has to be awfully active to maintain the
    situation in a bad state. Situations have
    to be maintained in a bad state, they just don't naturally exist
    in a bad state. And that's very definitely true of
    If you were left alone, even if you could put in two or
    three hundred years at it, you'd start to snap out of
    your hop. See, you have to pick up the next baby anyhow, all off
    your own bat. Well, supposing you just
    picked up the next baby without the between lives implant to slow
    you down? Well, I find that would be
    Quite interesting. Quite interesting thought, because right there
    you're looking at world clearing.
    We got several ways that we can whip this situation. We're
    actually talking about an existing situation.
    We're talking about the situation that your pc is sitting in, in
    that pc chair in an auditing session. There is
    his PTP. How the hell is he going to get out of here?
    Well, I know how to get out of here -- I could have went as
    a matter of fact. Just don't appear in this
    immediate vicinity of the solar system. Go back and find your
    friends and bring some battle cruisers in. But
    the point I'm making here is: The key is, the second you find
    yourself free, to appear, don't you see? Well, I
    appeared and I said to hell with that and stepped back up above
    here again. Said now what the hell's
    happened here? What's this funny compulsion? And ran that on down,
    that's it.
    Well actually, it doesn't take much to get rid of the
    compulsion. Now, in exteriorization, it is very easy for
    a thetan to exteriorize if you have him be in some place he's
    familiar with. Now, supposing Scientologists just
    elected a place to be when they kicked the bucket. And supposing,
    why, we simply ran out -- and actually
    it's just a section of this implant, and even though it jams the
    case up, who cares -- run out that compulsion,
    even by repeater technique, don't you see? We can do that, see.
    Run that compulsion to appear over there,
    you see. And then tell the guy very strong and hard, "Well now,
    where is a good place that you're very
    familiar with? Well, when you die, appear there. Now remember
    that. When you die, appear such-and-such a
    place." Different place.
    Two or three hundred years, even with no processing, you'd
    be free. In other words you'd live it out.
    Look at the amount of time that's just been bought. Because
    frankly, it wouldn't take more than a couple of
    hours to do this job on anybody. If you simply told a thetan to be
    in a place where he was familiar with or
    liked to be, he would exteriorize. You can ask somebody what he's
    familiar with. He gets tangled up
    sometimes, thinks he's gone into a facsimile when he's actually
    gone into a locale, don't you see. As far as
    that's concerned, you see, you could use Saint Hill, providing you
    didn't -- providing you ran out all your
    ARC breaks on the subject.
    But the point here is elementary. If a guy has got to pick
    up his own body on his -- off his own bat
    anyway, well, he might as well just pick up a body off his own bat
    anyway. Nobody else is going to do
    anything for him. In fact if you're going to give him a -- you
    know very well that if -- what would happen to
    somebody if he had an engram and you gave him another engram on
    top of it and said that his engram didn't
    exist, you know how therapeutic that would be. And then you
    misdated everything he's got and then told
    him a bunch of lies and then pulled an emotional switch on him.
    You can imagine the state your pc would be
    in if you did these things, so supposing you just deleted that out
    of the subject of death. And somebody
    just was in a place they were familiar with and didn't go back
    through the between lives area. And I'm telling
    you true, that in two or three hundred years you would have lived
    it out. You'd be flexing your biceps
    anyhow, relieved from that situation -- you'd be starting to take
    a long breath.
    Because there must be considerable fear connected with this.
    Perhaps the fear of death is mainly the fear
    of the between lives area. May not be a fear of death at all.
    Certainly oblivion takes place during that period.
    Now economic chaos would ensue at once if people kept coming back
    and demanding their toys back. I'm
    sure that you'd get a lot of people who would argue against this
    and say this was not the best for this best
    of all possible worlds. They'd say, well -- well, they could say a
    lot of things about this. I'm frankly not very
    interested in what they would say about this.
    But now as Scientologists, supposing we just started tabbing
    people on the shoulder and giving them
    this two-hour treatment which deleted the compulsion to return to
    the between lives area -- instead of that,
    appeared in Yankee Stadium or something, and took off and went and
    found a new body? You see the only
    service performed: it gives you a place to be when you're dying,
    see, and spares you some of the agony of
    death. See, it gives you a place to be as the only service
    performed. All the rest of them cut your throat, see.
    Well you can easily perform that service. Next thing you know you
    start cutting down their customers.
    Now, a couple of things stand in the road of all this. You
    should know this, a couple of questions are
    unanswered here. How close is the liaison between these jerks -- I
    mean these nuts -- I mean these fellows --
    and Earth. How close a liaison do they maintain? Do they care
    anything about Earth at all? They must have
    seen a space probe going by the other day -- they must be aware of
    some interplanetary action taking place
    right here. What they going to say about it? When in the last two
    weeks I've seen a full armored spaceship
    sitting on a landing port, with mine own eyes. What they going to
    do? I don't think they'll do anything. I
    think they're hung with their own petard. The moment they appear,
    they blow the show. I don't think they'd
    do anything. I just think they get fixed on a wrongness, and
    they're continuously executing this wrongness.
    They continuously -- so they insist on its rightness and they
    think that's going to solve everything.
    I'm interested that jamming the track to this degree, and
    giving so little time period amongst incidents as
    they do to the person, is giving people a weird time -- zzzzzzzzz.
    So that you have fan-job airplanes only
    occupying a third of a century, where as a matter of fact in most
    societies they'll be happy and content with
    the fan-job airplane for anything up to a billion years. Somebody
    invented a fan-job airplane. Fine. That's
    good. Over here -- over here, we've got jet planes. Now we've got
    supersonic planes. Now we've got
    spaceships. You see? Pocketa-pocketa-pocketa-pocketa. It's this
    acceleration. I've interest -- been interested
    in that because I've seen it as quite different here than it is in
    any other place I've ever been. And this could
    be the primary factor. They give you your time track such a fast
    jam together that everybody gets an idea of
    more accelerated motion of the way progress has got to occur.
    There could be other explanations. There could be an
    explanation such as a base is being created here
    for takeover of this particular galaxy, since this type of implant
    is not native to this galaxy -- inspecting your
    own track you will see that is the case. It's the next galaxy.
    These could be an enemy to this galaxy, sitting
    there quietly, letting a manufacturing or production base build up
    for an attack into this galaxy. These could
    be simply prison guards. And with tacit consent from one and all,
    far and wide, why any of you agitators
    that cut up a fuss or didn't join the local AMA or something like
    this -- they capsulized you and threw you
    down here and they know very well that this is a prison.
    Now, I know that this is known in some peculiar way, because
    bulletin board notices exist all over the
    place with regard to this planet. They say, "No landings on
    Earth." Why does everybody comply with this?
    I got here, why, accidentally landing here up in the Himalayas.
    But why does everybody comply with this?
    Why is this planet stayed away from? I don't know -- how many
    visitors did Alcatraz have? See, this is
    about where we sit with regard to this situation.
    Now, there's another factor. Another factor here that's
    quite interesting. If they have pictures of Earth in
    order to show you how you died, did they get them on Earth, or are
    they picking them up on some weird
    mind reading fact off of beings as they come up there? Have they
    -- have they actually figured out how to
    photograph a facsimile? If they've figured that kind of thing out,
    why then that's explained. But how do they
    know what's going on here? That is not finally answered, don't you
    Now, they haven't done anything about these space probes.
    The boys have been at it here, shooting
    stuff off into the heavens for the last several years and nothing
    has been done about this. Now, knowing
    very well, I suppose, that any time they exceeded a certain zone
    or area -- they know very well that an
    armored cruiser could blow anything that this planet could build
    like a kid's toys out of the sky, so maybe
    they're not worried about it. Or maybe they're counting on a
    decimation of population, a destruction of
    industry in atomic war.
    Another question is: How thoroughly do these people
    influence the affairs of Earth? We can understand
    that Earth is a very, very strange planet. I've never seen
    populations behave with the same hecticness and
    weirdness. And, of course, if people who were rather revolutionary
    or upset or nonconformist were picked
    up uniformly and concentrated on one planet, you'd get a -- almost
    an ungovernable situation. Which I think
    rather tends to explain maybe what this is all about. I've seen
    other planets go nutty, but only when they
    were in external stress of great magnitude, otherwise they were
    rather peaceful. The days before the
    Helatrobus Implants on some of the planets attacked by those
    people, you couldn't maintain a government.
    It was everything going to pieces all the time. But that's an
    interesting question.
    All right. What degree of influence is exerted against this
    planet then? Now, astrologists may have
    something -- the astrologists may have something in their favor
    when you realize that these planets
    swinging closer to Earth would be easier to travel -- would make
    it easier to travel to Earth, and further from
    Earth you'd have less traffic or less this or that, and so you'd
    have less things happening on Earth, don't
    you see. The proximity of planets, combinations of planets or that
    sort of thing, maybe just to the degree of
    the interspacial relationships of the thing and so on -- maybe
    this has some influence on the situation, I
    wouldn't know. I'm just discussing here points.
    Now, here's another point. Where do we sit? I think between
    thee and me, that's the point we're
    interested in. Yeah, well, they're maybe counting on an atomic war
    wiping out space opera and so forth.
    Space probes already may have excited their curiosity, there may
    be some purpose in this, but that they took
    no action when the first space probes passed them either says
    they're back of space probing or says some
    other explanation exists for that, so we can neglect all that.
    What is the -- what is the role which we occupy
    in this? This is very, very, very interesting.
    Now, that I release this might be a source of great worry to
    you. But remember, it's been in a book, one of
    the books carefully seized by the Fools and Druggists -- the Fools
    and Drug Addicts. That's the new name.
    Ah, that's a good name, isn't it? The Fools and Drug Addicts.
    Anyway, was What to Audit, and the
    between lives area are described in the book What to Audit. This
    is not unknown. What to Audit is many,
    many years old. It's been kicking around for a long time, been
    available to almost anybody and look,
    nothing's happened. In other words, the information has already
    been released when the publicity on the
    subject of Dianetics was at a much higher pitch than it is on the
    subject of Scientology. So, what is this? If
    we really started to run with the ball and so forth, we expect a
    couple of meat bodies in the usual white
    jumper that comes along with the space opera (except those guys by
    the way wear khaki -- it's an
    odd-looking uniform), we expect them to appear on the front
    doorsteps and say, "Are you a Scientologist?
    Well, there's the spaceship," and they take you up and throw you
    in the can in -- at Pluto, or something. Is
    this a kind of action here that we might expect?
    Or is it a situation where we are no threat to them? It'll
    all sort of pass away? Or are they in a state where
    this covert action, going forward for so many years, would
    tolerate almost anything before they would
    disclose themselves? Or do they count absolutely on the exact
    camouflage which we have? We are
    ridiculed. That's our camouflage. I should think -- I should think
    if anybody was in the know or any liaison
    line existed between these two systems... Maybe Kennedy and other
    presidents find this out the moment
    they step in the White House, you know, maybe that's what makes
    them look so old in two or three years,
    the way they cave in. Maybe they find out, "Well, you boys are
    slaves, you see and..."
    No, I don't think anything like that happens. But supposing
    -- supposing you did get a liaison line
    between this society and them, what would be their best reports on
    us? Oh, "fraudulent bunch of quacks,"
    "the space opera science fictioneers," "bums." The very best
    authorities, the AMA, the Fools and Drug
    Addicts, the newspapers, which is where they get their news, radio
    broadcasts, television broadcasts, all
    forms of news, represent us as being totally unimportant,
    ridiculous and so forth. I think they could have all
    of our books sitting on a desk up there right this minute and
    laugh themselves silly, without a bit of worry
    about the whole thing. They'd certainly not blow the show for it.
    And they'd have to blow the show, you
    understand. They'd have to appear. Not covertly. You don't bring
    spaceships down in a DEW
    line-monitored society, privately. Must be getting very hard for
    these characters to deliver the goods these
    days. We're past the radar screens, and that sort of thing.
    I think they could be sitting there with the whole library
    in front of them and they wouldn't have any
    impulse to do anything. They'd say, "Well, a few of them and so
    on, and it's not important and so forth and
    you wouldn't really want to do that, and after all we never have
    done anything like this and besides, the
    atomic war is coming right up. And there's no danger from these
    people because they're a bunch of frauds
    anyway. There's always some madman, you know, gets some kind of an
    idea like this, and it all passes away
    and so forth. Look at the Buddhist. We let him conquer three
    quarters of Asia, and he was trying to end this
    life-death cycle and keep from coming through our carefully
    maintained plant, and he never made it. Never
    did anything. So there's your precedent. Nothing happened. Nothing
    happened." No, nothing happened,
    but I was standing on their landing stage the other day. Nothing
    The funny part of it is, is a lot of us have friends. That's
    interesting, too. And if you have to work this
    hard to keep somebody aberrated, and working this hard you still
    aren't successful in preventing a
    breakthrough the way we have made in this society -- in spite of
    all of the cockeyed, contrary propaganda
    lies and nonsense which are leveled at this society, we are making
    progress. And if this continues, we will
    make progress all the way. We're a polite gathering, and it is no
    time to indulge in threats or violence or
    anything like that, so I won't describe any future plans with
    relationship to these people.
    But I think the one thing they must be afraid of is having
    their planet rolled. Which of course is the one
    thing that will happen to them! Anyhow, the situation -- the
    situation is much more favorable to us. It shows
    that aberration is very difficult to maintain. It shows that it's
    being actively maintained. As far as the validity
    of this and the possession of one of these series of implants in
    your pc is concerned, I'll vouch for it. You
    may not be able to run it, but it's there. You can certainly cut a
    swath out of the back end of it, that stops the
    thing. But to run somebody through it before he's got the track
    nested up, is impossible.
    So look at what we got here. We're going along our own way.
    The first thing we ought to do is give some
    attention to preventing further implantations of Scientologists.
    I've already given you a program by which
    this can be done. Your next action on the thing is dispose of
    them. And I can see tomorrow, I can see
    tomorrow -- the Chinee, he appear on landing stage to go through
    his false death and he hear words,
    thought-wave as follows: "Be on Earth. Support your local
    Scientologist. There is no further reason to upset
    you this time, you've been a good boy." And show him an "S" and
    double triangle, and there he goes.
    Actually you'd only have to do this for two or three hundred
    years, and Earth would start to go Clear on
    its own. Because it wasn't getting this continuous assistance. The
    only other source of action is the
    psychiatrist with his prefrontal lobotomy and his transorbital
    schizophrenia. And this bloke and his avidity
    'for doing everybody in, if you just left -- you know, if you just
    leave a psycho alone, why he'll come out of
    it. But you've got to leave him alone, got to let him have a rest.
    That's the best treatment for psychosis: don't
    do anything with a psychotic, you see.
    Well, I think all of a sudden through finding the worst
    news, we also, not Pollyannaishly find some good
    news, but actually find the answer to our problem. As far as the
    clearing of this planet is concerned, that is
    the easiest end of it. The hardest end of it is right now, right
    here and so forth.
    Now, how can you run this incident? That must be burning
    through your wits right now. Well, what you
    do is get your GPMs out of the road -- they're the only thing you
    can't scan through -- and get your basics
    on this type of incident. If you run those two things, then the
    incident can be scanned. And we already
    have the tools by which the incident can be run. The only thing
    you've got to do is make sure that your pc
    gets lots of TA action in a session, and very shortly, no matter
    if you ran implants or didn't run implants or
    something like this, they will be jumping up there ready to be
    run. And the fact that they are -- and this gave
    me a bad turn for a day or two -- is I thought, "Are all the
    things I have run simply jammed into this and have
    I been running them at a wrong point in time?" No, because they've
    been properly dated, I've been running
    them at a right point in time, even though they were then jammed
    in this particular incident. I've been
    running them out of the right. And I found out that not all of
    them had been restimulated there. In fact, a
    very small portion of them had been restimulated there, just to
    make it impossible to scan through the thing.
    But you run down GPMs, you date them on the time track --
    you're running them at that time on the time
    track, you're not running them out of the group, see. Don't worry
    about that. But sometimes a pc will give
    you a date. Now we're dating years ago, and their dating are years
    into the future. These two dates do not
    conflict. Their dates are wrong, our dates are right. So redating
    gives you -- of any incident strips it out of
    this, so any time you find an engram properly dated on the pc,
    you're away. See?
    The amount of false track -- at first I blanched. I thought
    the amount of false track I have must be
    fabulous. And I tried to get away -- rid of all the discreditable
    incidents by saying they were simply false
    track. And then I had to run out all the invalidations because
    they were my own track. I thought, "Well, this
    is a wonderful way out of it, there's that time when I sat
    incapacitated for a long period of time and didn't feel
    strong anymore and so on -- that was obviously just false track."
    No, no, it happened to be real. There's
    very little unreal incident on the track. Very little unreal
    incident. When you finally get something durationed
    exactly and right, you can tell whether or not it's one of these
    types of implants. But the track is not the same
    track. It's corny track. It's -- there's something goofy with it.
    The pictures you run out of the pc by and large
    are the actual pictures of the pc. And when you can't run pictures
    on the pc you've got a wrong date or a
    wrong duration. So if you get a right date and a right duration,
    you can run the picture, and the picture that
    can be run that way turns out to be what it is. It turns out to be
    a real picture or a bad picture. Only the pc
    can tell you if you've got the right date and the right duration.
    So simply by carrying on with R3R without the slightest
    change, carrying on with R3N without the
    slightest change, you then get the time track into the kind of
    shape that a pc perforce could actually scan
    through one of these implants no matter what type or part of his
    time track had been. Takes a less number of
    hours than you would think. You've got the weapons with which to
    do it.
    You get the basic series of implants off of any chain of
    implants, that is to say you get the basics on
    these things out, and you'll find very rapidly and very readily
    that the rest of them tend to fall away. And
    they desensitize. For instance, if you get the first two items --
    let's say we've got the same items firing twelve
    times in a row, and if you got the first two fires clean, the rest
    of them won't even click. Isn't that interesting?
    Whereas if you got the twelfth one, it takes you about fifteen
    minutes to get all the rocket reads of it off and
    then you get the eleventh one, you've got all the rocket reads to
    take off of it and so forth. In other words,
    we've got the mechanism which turns the time track right side to,
    and it takes the charge out of the place
    where it counts.
    We've got these various mechanisms solved. In other words,
    what we know already can put somebody's
    time track in shape so that the person eventually can run straight
    through one of these incidents, and damn
    the torpedoes. In fact without having all of my time track
    beautifully cleaned up, I was playing tag with one
    of these things my last session, and I was terribly intrigued by
    the fact that I had become a bit
    contemptuous of it. I have moved around, I know what it is, it's
    been cross-dated -- it suddenly occurred to
    me, "All right, so if I find I can't scan through something here,
    I'll just redate it." And, sure enough, it
    disappears on the back track the second you do so. So you could
    probably take it from the year zero, and
    redate everything that appeared on the screen in front of the pc
    and throw his time track back, and the next
    thing you know the thing would be gone as an incident.
    Particularly if you were running basic on the
    You can run the beginning of it off selectively, you can run
    the end of it off selectively -- the last (quote)
    hundred days (unquote), the first fifteen days (unquote) --
    without running the pc through any of his own
    time track restimulation. So there's many ways this thing can be
    handled. We're over the hump on this
    situation. But this thing must exist pretty well as a present time
    problem for every pc audited. He must be
    afraid of death; he must be trying to keep his body from getting
    sick and disappearing, simply and solely
    because he doesn't want an implant at the end of this life.
    All right, if you were to solve that problem by stripping
    out his compulsion to appear in the implant stage
    and tell him to appear someplace else, you've probably solved a
    present time problem of great magnitude on
    the part of the pc. The truth never hurts. It's only lies that
    The very fact that this is a prison planet, that it is being
    monitored this carefully right this minute... Right
    this instant, as I'm talking here, some Joe off this planet has
    appeared on that landing stage and is being told
    how he just got through an airplane crash, whereas the guy
    probably died of pneumonia. See? Right this
    minute, you see. And this instant, another guy did. In other
    words, this is a continuing situation that's going
    on and on and on and on and on. Gives you an understanding of
    what's happening.
    We couldn't have run them in yesteryear; we can run them
    today. The best answer is to first put the pc in
    shape so that he can run engrams and GPMs by making sure you can
    get good tone arm action running
    those things on the pc. The next thing to do is to run engrams and
    run implants, GPMs on the pc, until he
    can go over his track rather comfortably and he can come on back
    on the backtrack and pick up this other
    type of time dislocation implant, scan through those things and
    knock them out. In other words, we've got it
    They've been looking down the backs of our necks and we
    didn't know it, for thousands of years. Each
    one of us as a person and as a society as a whole. And I just want
    to point out to you that the other day, I
    was looking down the back of theirs.

    Thank you very much.
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